MH17 crash is still a puzzle

Sep. 28, 2014.

This is just a draft.
I just begin learning about the case.
Correct me if i am wrong.

The part of the puzzle is that efforts of all investigators are too sparse and not coherent.

1. Examination of audio and video “evidence” submitted to mass media does not have details or
is hard-to find in a volume of Internet posts.

If Russian criminal investigators, Nikolai Popov (?), made spectral analysis of “audio interception”, the details should be
published. Briefing is not enough. It stems a lot of pro and contra speculations.

Ordinary user is lost.

There is a lot of public investigation is going on BUK-video in “Krasnoarmeisk-Kramatorsk-Tores-Snejznoe”.
If spectral analyzis has been used to extract the sign “st. Dnepropetrovskya, 34”, it should be posted.
It is not possible to see it by naked eye.

The postboard itself should be identified, photographed, and posted.

It is important to translate important findings from Russian.

2. Behavior analysis.

It is important to reveal motives and give clue in which direction to conduct
the real facts investigation.

It’s not a replacement for proof, but 100% accurate finger-point who is lying.

And it is very simple to accomplish.
All people need is just to collect (mass-)media posts regularly in a database and cross match them.
Otherwise, the data is going to be forgotten, lost, manipulated, or erased.

3. Community must demand full release a data from FDR and CVR.

Non-availability of them is a behaviour-clue of conspiracy.

4. Community must demand full release of data of US military-satellite records and Ukrainian records.
After all, there is a “Freedom of information act” in US.

It is hard to expect this demand will go from US-citizens. They used to be indifferent to “Lies-in-their-face”
during Iraq-WMD government lies. And after all, they seem to be busy to survive they
daily work hardship, who can blame people for this …

5.
If “Dutch investigation commission” did not use satellite and radar-activity interception data provided from Russia,
the commission must publish forensic, spectral, or other scientific proof that these data is a fake.

The commission has broken logic. It assumes if the “damage” is caused by “shrapnel-like” explosion outside of the
vessel, this excludes jet’s attack. This silently excludes a logical possibility of double attack.
What caused the commission to “forget” about logic?

Nothing is said about mysterious U-turn detected ? by global ? radar system and by Russian ? radar system.
If something did stop FDR and CVR at 13.20.03, why this did not stop the vessel for few more minutes?
It is possible to take control this vessel model from ground station; is this possible to stop recorders from
ground station?

6.
Without all above, the effect of “Dutch commission” was mere delaying of investigation and loosing precious time.

Some samples to read before start:

Some of following posts seem prominent and well balanced.
They do not treat public as idiots and leave space for own conclusions.

21Wire:
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/07/25/mh17-verdict-real-evidence-points-to-us-kiev-cover-up-of-failed-false-flag-attack/

Audio:
This contradicts to Russian version, but not much in depth:
http://claysbeach.blogspot.com/2014/07/us-recordings-on-pro-russian-downing-of.html

no details:
http://translate.yandex.net/tr-url/ru-en.en/voicesevas.ru/news/yugo-vostok/3030-eksperty-priznali-poddelkoy-zapis-peregovorov-opolchencev-o-sbitom-boinge.html

Bitlab

This is not true that Vladimir Putin is “isolated”

September 7, 2014.

Yes, this is perhaps true that “there is no western leader who Putin can count on” [ 1 ].
But, there are views of independent “Western” people who agree that NATO and US policies are unfair if not inhumane and dishonest. These views are not cheap agitations and propaganda, but mature and confident appreciation of Russian politics.

Noam Chomsky. http://www.chomsky.info/articles/20140501.htm

“We Are Not Beginning a New Cold War, We are Well into It”: Stephen Cohen on Russia-Ukraine Crisis
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/4/17/we_are_not_beginning_a_new
“STEPHEN COHEN: …So when we say today Putin initiated this chaos, this danger of war, this confrontation, the answer is, no, that narrative is wrong from the beginning. It was triggered by the European Union’s unwise ultimatum.”

Former U.S. Ambassador: Behind Crimea Crisis, Russia Responding to Years of “Hostile” U.S. Policy
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/3/20/fmr_us_ambassador_behind_crimea_crisis
Has clear and concise remark of Vitaly Churkin about “rejoining Crimea to Russia”.

Fmr. U.S. Ambassador: To Resolve Ukraine Crisis, Address Internal Divisions & Russian Fears of NATO
http://www.democracynow.org/2014/9/3/fmr_us_ambassador_to_resolve_ukraine

[ 1 ].
5 September 2014 Last updated at 09:06 ET
Ukraine truce shaken by new shelling
By Steve Rosenberg
BBC News, Moscow
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29076189
“… A senior Russian foreign policy strategist with close links to the Kremlin told me there were no Western politicians President Putin felt comfortable negotiating with on Ukraine….”

Child-like logic of BBC article “Russia ‘will react’ to EU sanctions” By Steve Rosenberg BBC News, Moscow

This is our comment on the article in BBC

Russia ‘will react’ to EU sanctions
By Steve Rosenberg BBC News, Moscow

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-29076189

This is just a brief thoughts. Correct us if we wrong.

1.

“NATO maintains that the alliance’s eastward enlargement in Europe has helped spread freedom, peace and stability across Europe.”

Democracy is not made by military advance of one country to another. In contrary, democracy is created by example of democratic country. Democracy creates by ethical and cultural development of country itself.

Moreover, military advance of “democratic” country to “non-democratic” damages democracy.

North Vietnam took their constitution from “American Independence Declaration” [1], but USA responded with bombs, which delayed democracy on region shifted it to more communist-like regime.

USA orchestrated Iranian coup in 1953 [2] which lead to cancellation of democracy. Continuous support military and economic actions against Iran since collapsing Shah’s regime, by US makes Iran people suspicious about purpose of democracy and damages democracy in Iran.

Liberating Germany from fascism in 1945, commonly, credited as helping to make Germany democratic does not count. It was war against aggressor, so it was morally justified in eyes of Germans. So, it is a shame of own actions did help to restore democracy.

And by the way, Germany knew about democracy non-less than, say USA and had established democratic institutions ( as Welfare ) before USA had it. And democracy does not prevent fascism and racism. Democratic country can elect fascist leader. Democracy is just a freedom, freedom for choice of good and bad.

The quality of democracy based on ethical and cultural development of the country.

Another example of “promoting” democracy is US occupation of Iraq in 2003 [3].
Civil wars since that still last till 2014.

2. Another child-like motive in the article that “Putin is paranoid” or no one can “explain him that NATO is for own his good”. This assumes that one man makes politics.
Child like approach. This is not about Putin, this is about Donbass residence who oppose NATO. Speak up with victims of shelling in Donetsk, whom they blame to. Some of them think that NATO and Europe is a cause. Look at the videos from bombing scenes. Look at the interviews. There are plenty of them in Youtube.com. Are you blind?

Author apparently unable to see that peace and stability reached Europe after collapse of SU, is because SU just stopped the cold war voluntary, voluntary did not object for the freedom of former republics. This was just because the maturity of public mind in SU. So, NATO should be dissolved at this time.

NATO seems paranoid. And driven by US interests. Prosperity interests have nothing in common with justice or morality. They are simply about different things. Not a surprise that behavior of US politics is behavior of a thief coming to other country.

This is how US is viewed by rebels or ordinary Russians. This is not a matter of single man, politician, Vladimir Putin, or historical Kremlin motive as a “fortress”.

I was attracted to US democracy and freedom in 1994. But now as a tax payer and resident of US, i am directly responsible for fascist politic of this country. Quite sad.

[1]. Martin Luther King, Jr.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyond_Vietnam:_A_Time_to_Break_Silence

[2]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat

[3]. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War